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What follows are messy notes straight from my notebook. From experience i know that it takes about a week to properly edit those.
Klaus Krippendorff presenting on the cybernetics of discourse.
The entire talk can be viewed at http://asc-cybernetics.org/2012/?page_id=681
Ideas are unknown if you don't talk about them.
Ecology: How species interact in the environment.
There is no sense of the whole.
Metaphorical conception, the bedrock of being human: a system that needs to be understood.
Design: Ecology of artifacts. And an epiphenomenon of creating those artifacts.
Language is also an artifact! Species, patterns of language, rituals, theories. Zipfs law: modelling the structure of human language.
Social theories are species in the ecology of language: e.g. scientists theories. 'Clear' can mean something different.
For example, having a theory of spiderman and jumping from a building may not work. Theories therefor need to support action. Social theories can affect what they describe. It is not possible to model on social sciences. "self fulfilling prophesy' is not a theory. If you do not act it does not work.
Therapy: Believe in the success of something is important.
[Free will]: "I don't care if we have choice or not. We socially construct we have choice, so we do it!"
Systems exist through their interconnections. They change all the time! Its [wrong] to speak of systems as wholes all the time, [as if they were something static].
Disciplines bring with them things such as discourses. Discourse of energy concept, pathologies of discourse, and discourse of cybernetics. What do discourses do?
Discourses construct their own artifacts.
These artifacts have an enabling aspect but also a constraining one.
(Giddens calles this 'the duality of structure')
(or like the McLuhan 'tetrad')
Parts and wholes. Reflexivity is one thing. Lets talk about social.
- it provides a comfortable world
- it is trapped in an Eigenform not going out.
E.g. the maths of Gabriel Stolzenberg on emotion
- a closed system with coherent explanations suppressing other versions.
- invalid, non-viable demonstrations
- you do not see what is wrong
- trap is only a trap when a burdon
Example of trap:
Therapist and victim of discrimination
Or Power: Foucault: Power is everywhere
Roald Dahl: Knowledge, Guns, Status, Beauty
Strategies out of the trap:
move towards the edge of the trap, towards the borderline, allow metaperspective, engage borderpeople perspectives, (be with foreigners, be a foreigner)
Reverse step by step which step is constructed.
Marx - criticism against idealism.
Abstracting ideas.
Systematise ideas of the ruling class into ideas of all.
attribute agency to ideas
Turn (this) into language.
Humour example: Crocodile Dundee with knife: Power is a social relationship.
In German Democratic Republic being complicit and reporting suspicious incidents.
Example: Black is beautiful campaign, unfounded fear,
work your language.
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